Vote According to the Bible on Life, Education and Marriage

Vote According to the Bible on Life, Education and Marriage


KEITH BUTLER: Your
vote is a seed. And whatever seed you plant,
it will come back to you and to yours
in terms of harvest. (Music) GEORGE: This is Pastor
George Pearsons, and welcome to this special edition
of the Believer’s Voice of Victory broadcast, “Faith for
Our Nation.” And we are here this week talking with our
cohost, Buddy Pilgrim, and our guest, Bishop Keith Butler. We
are so glad that you’re with us. We’re talking about how
important it is that we vote in these upcoming primaries as well
as the midterm elections. And that’s the–that is the calling
that we have this week on this broadcast, is to get the
Christians moving in the direction to vote and vote
righteously. Thank you for being on the broadcast with us. KEITH:
Oh, it’s an honor to be here. GEORGE: And, Buddy, thank you
for working with me on this this week. We’re so– BUDDY: Thank
you, George. GEORGE: Buddy is a tremendous board member of
Kenneth Copeland Ministries as well as a consultant to
businesses. And he’s working with me right now as I help
to–in my responsibilities as CEO of Kenneth Copeland
Ministries. And the vast political background that you’ve
had, as well as yourself, you are–you’re more than qualified
to sit at this table and educate us on what we need to do. So,
Bishop, why don’t you pick up on what you were talking about
yesterday, seedtime and harvest. Talk to us about that. KEITH:
Well, of course, the Bible told us that–remember, day three,
when God created the earth, Genesis, Chapter 1– GEORGE:
Yeah. KEITH: Day three, He created the planet, okay, and
said, “Call it earth.” And then He said, “I give you every herb
bearing seed,” okay? Then when He creates man in day six, okay,
He tells us also, “I’ve given you every herb bearing seed for
you, to be for food.” GEORGE: Mm-hmm. KEITH: Of course, man
says, they get wiped out. The flood comes. God starts over
again with Noah. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: What’s the first thing He
says to Noah? “As long as the earth remains,” Genesis 8:22,
“seedtime, harvest shall not cease.” So as long as the earth
is here, everything operates by seedtime and harvest. You’re a
result of seedtime and harvest. I’m a result of seedtime and
harvest. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: Our fathers carried us as a
seed– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: –planted us into the fertile
ground of our mother. Time came. Oop, here we are. (Laughter)
We’re here today. That’s true spiritually, and it’s true
naturally, and it’s true socially. GEORGE: Good, good.
KEITH: Okay? So, your vote is a seed. And whatever seed you
plant, it will come back to you and to yours in terms of
harvest. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: See? GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: The
same thing is true of a collective nation, that if you
have–the seed that people plant collectively brings about that.
See, a lot of times people think God just kind of says, “Well,
I’m just going to do such and such and this and that and…”
No, no, no. BUDDY: Right. KEITH: No. He set laws in motion. He
will not violate His own laws. And so we’ve been getting the
leadership we’ve been getting because of the seed we’ve been
planting, okay? GEORGE: Mm-hmm. KEITH: And that’s why we wind up
with what we do. So your vote is a seed, and we are responsible
for that. Galatians 6:7 tells us, “As a man sows shall he also
reap. God is not mocked. If you sow to the flesh, of the flesh
reap corruption.” That Greek word, “corruption,” is ruin. “If
you sow to the Spirit, you reap life everlasting.” GEORGE: Yes,
yes. KEITH: Principle number one. So your seed’s going to
impact you. Number two, Colossians 3:2 told
us–amen–over there, that we are to put spiritual things
first. Your first commitment should be to the kingdom of
God– GEORGE: Yes. KEITH: –and not to yourself first. GEORGE:
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. KEITH: Okay. So that means that your–your
vote, in terms of your priority of voting, must not be, “Well,
how does this line my pocketbook? How does this–”
whatever it is that you think is important. The first thing we
have to go to the Word to find out, what God’s priorities are.
What does the Word say how things are to operate? And you
vote that first. You compare candidates– BUDDY: Yeah. KEITH:
–on–based on those two things. And then you determine that. And
again, once again, “seek those things which are above,” the
Scripture said, Colossians 3:2, “and not on things of the
earth.” And then the third thing on–yesterday, we were just
starting. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: We were–I don’t believe in
election-year conversions. GEORGE: (Laughs) KEITH: Matthew
6:33 told us, “Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his
righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you.”
That’s the seedtime and harvest. GEORGE: Mm-hmm. KEITH: Election
time conversions, you know, every political cycle,
candidates profess to get born again. BUDDY: Mm-hmm. KEITH: And
you get some Christians that say, “Well, I praise for
prayers.” GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: Most of the election year. Well,
that’s good. I’m not disputing that. I don’t know between them
and God. But I can tell you this: The Bible told me that
you’ll know a tree by the fruit it bears. Okay. And you want to
look at, really, the history of an individual– GEORGE: Yeah.
KEITH: –because politicians will flip their issues to match
where they run so that they can get elected. But when crunch
time comes– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: –and when you really
believe something, which means–it’s something you might
pay–have to pay a cost for, okay, then what they really
believe, that’s what they’re going to do. GEORGE: Yes. Yes.
KEITH: And so politicians are famous for saying one thing in
the campaign, doing another thing when they govern. So
that’s why you really want to look at, “I want to see what you
were doing when you were dogcatcher.” (Laughter) You
know? I want to see where you stood on the issues. We’re going
to talk about issues on this subject. GEORGE: Right, right.
KEITH: “Where were you on these issues? What is–what’s really
your past?” as opposed to, “Thank God if you did get born
again this year.” GEORGE: Right. KEITH: I’m not going on that.
You’re just a baby Christian anyway. You don’t have no
strength yet. You don’t have any real teaching yet, so you’re
still going to revert probably back to–at least until your
mind gets renewed, which requires time– GEORGE: Sure.
KEITH: –and teaching. During a campaign, you don’t have time.
Take it from somebody who’s run some campaigns. You don’t have
time in order to get that renewing of the mind yet, okay?
So I think Christians should be leery of election-year
conversions. GEORGE: Yeah, yeah. KEITH: Look at the past. BUDDY:
Yeah. GEORGE: Yeah. BUDDY: You said something–you said a lot
of things yesterday that impacted me, but one of them
was, you gave an example of when God told you specifically a
person to vote for, which He will reveal to us how we should
vote, who we should vote for. He cares about every decision we
make in our life. I responded to that by talking about a guy who
told me basically, “Buddy, God don’t care about the business
side of your life. He cares about the spiritual side of your
life,” which is a false concept, because if that were true, then
we could have a spiritual side and a family side– KEITH: Sure.
BUDDY: –a spiritual side and a political side, a spiritual
side– KEITH: Right. BUDDY: –and a business side. And the
truth is, God cares about every side of our life, and He wants
to be involved in every bit of it. And He’ll tell us who to
vote for, and He’ll give us principles that guide our vote
in every single election. And you said something yesterday.
You said, “Vote on kingdom issues first.” KEITH: Yeah.
BUDDY: And right before you said that, you said that most people,
unfortunately, even most Christians, vote on pocketbook
issues first. You know, James Carville famously said, “It’s
the economy, stupid,” back when he was running Bill–Bill
Clinton’s campaign. And he was right in the sense of most
people vote based on the economy. They based on–they
vote based on pocketbook issues. And as Christians, we shouldn’t
vote based on pocketbook issues first. We should vote on kingdom
issues first. And, George, that’s one of the things I so
appreciate about Kenneth Copeland Ministries and Brother
Copeland’s teaching for so many years about prosperity, because
when you understand the principles of prosperity–
KEITH: Right, right. BUDDY: –that this ministry has taught
since its inception, you understand that God is your
source, not the government. And once you understand God is your
source and not the government and that He will bless the work
of your hands and that your vote is seed–going back to what you
say, that if you vote the right way and you put your trust in
God for your economic issues, you won’t have to let economic
issues drive your vote. You let those other issues that you were
talking about drive your vote. And they’ll lead you to the
right decision. KEITH: Right. Well, see the Bible is God
speaking to you. Now, see, the supernatural is not. It’s either
anointing or it’s not. And if it’s not, what are we doing,
okay? GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: Of course, it is. I mean,
it’s–it’s profitable for reproof, for correction, for
instruction, okay, and righteousness. So obviously, God
cares about everything in your life or He wouldn’t have said,
“Seedtime and harvest,” He wouldn’t have said a plethora of
verses. GEORGE: Yeah, yeah. KEITH: I mean, just all kinds of
verses to–to talk about that. But unfortunately, people
have–think that’s their pet peeve. Now, it may not be
economic issues. There are other things that people– BUDDY:
True. KEITH: –that’s their most single issue about, okay, or
distance to a thing. But the question is, does it line up
with the Word of God? What does God say about that? BUDDY: Yeah.
KEITH: Okay? And what the Lord told me–I would have never
thought this individual would–would have been someone
that would–on the issues that were important to me at the very
top, not Christian issues, but other issues– GEORGE: Mm-hmm.
KEITH: –I wouldn’t have–I wouldn’t have thought that at
all. But God’s view of things is different than ours. God sees
things on a–on a much wider scope than we do. We just see
this little narrow thing, you know. And not only that, God has
a plan and a purpose. So it comes back to trust–Proverbs
3:5, “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, leaning not to your
own brain power.” GEORGE: (Laughs) KEITH: “In all your
ways–” BUDDY: That’s good. GEORGE: That’s a great term.
KEITH: “All your ways” would include your business life, your
political life and anything else. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH:
“–acknowledge Him.” He does the directing. That’s what Lordship
is about. That word “Lord,” “kurios,” means controller,
because that means God controls wherever you go. Now, let’s talk
a little bit, I think, about issues. GEORGE: Okay. KEITH:
Okay? Since we talked about that. GEORGE: Yep. BUDDY: Yeah.
GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: Let’s talk about kingdom perspective
issues. I think the biggest one of all is Isaiah 44. And I’m
going to read that, and there’s been a war in this nation ever
since this deal came down this way. But Isaiah 44, and let’s
read here–oh, I’ll start with Verse 2. “Thus saith the Lord
that made thee and formed thee from the womb.” GEORGE: Oh. Yes.
KEITH: See, God’s the One who creates life. God’s the One who
puts life in the body. Let me read a couple more verses here–
GEORGE: Yeah, yeah. KEITH: –also. You can look at Verse
24, same chapter. “Thus saith the Lord thy redeemer, He that
formed thee from the womb.” Isaiah 49:5, “And now saith the
Lord that formed thee from the womb–” GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH:
“–to be his servant.” Jeremiah 1:5, we all know that one.
GEORGE: Yep, yep. KEITH: You know, “I called you the prophet
from your birth.” In other words, abortion is a big one,
okay, because what is more important than whether or not a
person gets to live or not? Live or die. BUDDY: Life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. KEITH: Yeah, that’s right. It
said in– BUDDY: The innocent life. KEITH: –the Constitution
of the United States, it–life is the biggest one of all.
GEORGE: Yep, yeah. KEITH: Because God has a plan for
everyone. And God’s the One–see, we create bodies. Male
and the female come together, and we create bodies and–and
things come along with that. But God’s the One that put the life,
okay, in there. BUDDY: Yeah. KEITH: Amen? And then God has,
for every single individual–and people have all kind of excuses.
You know, “What about rape, incest, and all that?” My–one
of my very best friends is a pastor in Sacramento. GEORGE:
Mm-hmm. KEITH: He was a result of his mother being dragged in
the alley somewhere, raped by somebody. But rather than abort
him– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: –she–she had him and gave him
up for adoption. He turned out to be a pastor of a great
church, thousands of people, programs for the poor and drug–
GEORGE: Yep, yep. KEITH: –drug addicted and some of everything
else. GEORGE: Mm-hmm. KEITH: And then he found his mother–found
his birth mother, and guess who was blessing his birth mother?
The woman who kept him alive. BUDDY: Amen. GEORGE: Oh, my.
KEITH: You see? So you cannot play God and decide what you’re
going to do. And God will not– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: –He will
not take kindly with your seed supporting that kind of thing.
The words told a complete thing. Here’s another one, Proverbs
14:12. I want to get into talking a little bit about
issues. And the next couple of days, we’ll get them more in
detail. GEORGE: Sure. KEITH: But I just want to run– GEORGE:
Yep. KEITH: –through some of them. GEORGE: Good. KEITH:
Proverbs 14, I put here, “Verse 12.” “There is a way which
seemeth right to a man, but the end thereof are the ways of
death.” Well, for me, the second one would be free speech and
religious liberty– BUDDY: Yes. KEITH: –connected to curriculum
issues at all levels of education. BUDDY: Oh. KEITH:
See, education is the big dog of influencing the nation. I
believe it was Hitler that said, “Give me all the five-year-olds,
I’ll win the world.” He’s correct. GEORGE: Wow. KEITH:
Okay? So the adults who are anti-God have taken the position
that they want control of that which influences people the
most. The thing that influences them the most is you get a
five-year-old kid and you start teaching that kid,
indoctrinating that kid, indoctrinate and continue–
GEORGE: Yeah, yeah. KEITH: –until they’re 18. BUDDY: And,
you know, this–that leads to the importance of us getting
involved, not only in the national elections for
president– KEITH: School board. BUDDY: –and for Senate and for
congressmen– GEORGE: Mm-hmm, yeah. BUDDY: –but school board,
local school boards, state elections, the–for the people
who run your state Board of Education. KEITH: Yep. BUDDY:
Those are so vitally important. And there’s less than 10 percent
of the population that even vote in those elections. In some
cases, there’ll be less than 5 percent of the population–
GEORGE: Yeah. BUDDY: –that vote. So if–if just half of the
Christians were to get out and vote in those and vote biblical
principles, we would change the course of our nation in the
schools as well. And you’re right, that’s where they take
control. You know, Pepsi used to have the ad, their ad, “The
Pepsi Generation”? KEITH: Right. GEORGE: Mm-hmm. BUDDY: And what
they were going after was young people because they knew if they
could get you to drink Pepsi when you were 16, they’d have
you for the rest of their life. GEORGE: Yeah. BUDDY: And that’s
what liberals know as well. They know that if they can go after
the schools and indoctrinate that kind of ideology into
people from–into kids from the very beginning, they’ll have
them for life. And we’ve got to take back the schools. And we
can only do it through getting involved in local elections.
KEITH: Well, this is a direct result of seedtime and harvest.
GEORGE: Mm-hmm. KEITH: I’ve been a pastor for–in January, it’ll
be 40 years. How many parents– GEORGE: Wow. KEITH: –have I
talked to? “I brought the kid to the church. I thought the Bible
said, Raise them up,” you know– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: “–in the
way he should go, and they’ll not depart from it.” Well, the
kid has your child 30 hours a week. You bring your child to
the church maybe– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: –maybe on Sunday.
GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: They get two hours, maybe. GEORGE: Maybe.
KEITH: Okay? Yeah, so that’s a juxtaposition. 30 hours a week
every week is a direct result, see? So if you allow your school
district to have a curriculum that’s anti-God and pro all the
anti-God stuff, and your child is exposed to that, their minds
are going to get renewed. Faith is not just something–faith in
the Word of God. BUDDY: Yeah. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: All faith
comes by hearing and hearing and hearing and hearing– GEORGE:
Yes, yes, yes. KEITH: –repeatedly. All faith does,
okay? GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: You can have faith in all kinds of
things. Well, so those kids constantly hear–hear it again
and again and again because the curriculums have moved away from
teaching math, science, computers and all that, and now
there’s a social agenda being promoted at age four– GEORGE:
Mm. Mm, mm, mm. KEITH: –even the stuff like, you know,
choose–choose what gender you are going to be– BUDDY: Yes.
KEITH: –telling a four-year-old and a five-year-old. GEORGE: My
gosh. KEITH: –and six-year-old, seven-year-old. I mean, what
kind of foolishness is this? Well, it’s–but it seems right
to those who hate God. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: Seems right to
them. The other thing is–is that the most folks that–the
people who are most against free speech are the ones who purport
to want free speech. BUDDY: Yeah. That’s right. GEORGE:
Mm-hmm. KEITH: As long as your speech– GEORGE: Yes. KEITH:
–doesn’t cross theirs. BUDDY: Yeah. As long as it aligns with
their speech, it’s okay. GEORGE: Yeah, yeah. KEITH: So what you
have in the schools today– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: –is that
kids who are in these Philistine schools, and they try and speak
up of biblical principles, they get assaulted not just by other
kids. They get assaulted by teachers and administrators, and
they are not allowed to speak their views. BUDDY: Oh, they’ll
get a bad grade on a paper if they write something that’s
different than what the teachers– GEORGE: Right. KEITH:
And all the way through the college level. That happened to
me when I was in college. Same thing, I had a bad–a college
professor, you know, and I stood up and said what the Bible said
about something. Boy, he targeted me for 15 weeks. And he
lowered my grade, although I did “A” work. But I did appeal
to–there was a board– GEORGE: Mm-hmm. KEITH: –you know,
because I had to appeal to them, and they reversed the decision.
But this happens not just at that level. That happens now at
grade school. And so again, your seed– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH:
–your vote brings a harvest right back into your own house–
GEORGE: Yep. KEITH: –your children, your grandchildren.
GEORGE: Whew, boy. KEITH: See? GEORGE: So it’s a seed into the
future. It’s a seed into the–the future, not only of our
lives but our children, our grandchildren. They’re going to
experience the results of what we did here. KEITH: Mm-hmm. See,
everybody can’t take their kids and put them in private school.
GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: Not everybody has the money. GEORGE:
Yeah. KEITH: Not everybody even has a school that’s even
available, okay, in every place, okay. So your vote really does
matter. Don’t just think presidential elections. This is
very important. GEORGE: Yes. BUDDY: You know something that,
it just hit me. It should have hit–I should have thought more
about this in the past. We all think about educating our own
kids. And as parents, we have a responsibility to make sure our
own kids are educated properly. And, you know, we put our kids
through private Christian school through all of their lives. But
even if you can afford to put your kids in a private Christian
school, or you get them in a charter school or something like
that– GEORGE: Mm-hmm. BUDDY: –we still should be engaged in
the issues that affect education because we need to care about
other people’s kids and how they get educated– GEORGE: Yes.
KEITH: Love your neighbor– BUDDY: Yes. KEITH: –as thyself.
BUDDY: Oh, man, that just– GEORGE: Yes. That’s it. BUDDY:
–hit me so hard. GEORGE: Boy, that’s it. BUDDY: You know, I–I
didn’t want my kids in public school, but I probably–I mean,
being honest, I probably didn’t get as engaged in what was going
on in the public schools in my community as I should have
because my kids were out of it. And what I did is I–I just
dismissed what was happening with all those other kids that
were in public school. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: But do you think
that that matters to God? BUDDY: Absolutely. KEITH: Absolutely,
it matters to God. It’s one of his agenda items as to what
happens to those children, every child. God loves every child,
you see? BUDDY: Man. KEITH: So again, it’s our seed, and our
commitment has to be the kingdom issues first– GEORGE: Yeah.
KEITH: –because everything in the Word of God is, at minimum,
a two-fer. It’s not just for you. Everything God asks always
affects someone else besides you, at least one other person.
BUDDY: Mm-hmm. KEITH: Namely, it’s more than that. Well, so
those are some issues. Here’s another one. Amen. Turn to
Genesis, Chapter 1. GEORGE: Wow. KEITH: We’re just–we’re just
covering– GEORGE: Wow. KEITH: –some of the–some of the
issues that Christians– GEORGE: We’ll touch on this one because
we’re almost out of time, but go ahead and– KEITH: Oh, all
right. GEORGE: Go ahead and just touch on that one, please.
KEITH: Well, Genesis 1:27, it says, “So God created man in his
own image, in the image of God created he him; male and
female–” See– BUDDY: Here we go. GEORGE: Okay, yeah, yeah.
KEITH: He didn’t–He didn’t– GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: –commit
them in some bifurcated way. I mean, he–he–(Laughs) With Him,
it is black and white. BUDDY: Yeah. KEITH: There are males
and– BUDDY: Not transgenders. KEITH: –here is male equipment.
GEORGE: Yep. KEITH: And here is female, and here is female
equipment. They are made to fit one another perfectly, okay?
(Laughter) “And there’s a psychological and emotional
component that I made each one to–to work together to bring
about what God’s heart is.” GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: God’s
heart– BUDDY: Yep. KEITH: –is that–what’s all–what’s the
whole Bible’s about? God having a family. BUDDY: Mm-hmm. KEITH:
It’s about Him having a massive family. GEORGE: That’s it.
KEITH: That’s what it’s about, okay? Well, amen. No question,
if you’re going to support issues that something other than
that, you’re definitely biblically going crosswise to
God. GEORGE: Yeah. KEITH: “Yeah, but I just don’t understand. I
mean, well, what harm is it?” Well, it’s sin, and sin always
results in death, period– BUDDY: Yeah. KEITH: –and all of
its ramifications. Right? So, I mean, a lot more on that. But
we’ve seen–as I was talking about in yesterday’s broadcast–
GEORGE: Yep. KEITH: –the–the anti-God folks, they don’t just
win a victory. They win a victory, and then they keep
trying to expand the envelope, which is what we’re seeing now.
BUDDY: Yeah. KEITH: See, they’re expanding the envelope, okay, as
much as possible. BUDDY: On that specific issue, it started out
as homosexual rights, which they quit using the word “homosexual”
and started using the word “gay,” because that sounds
better than “homosexual.” Once they got what they called gay
marriage approved, they even stopped using those terms. And
the only terms you hear nowadays–and I hope we talk
about this on the next broadcast, the power of the
words and how they capture the language– GEORGE: Yeah. BUDDY:
–they use “LGBT.” KEITH: Right. BUDDY: Because that– KEITH:
“LBGTQ.” BUDDY: LGBTQ, you’re right. KEITH: Right. BUDDY: That
acronym, and those–those bunch of letters sound less
innocuous– KEITH: Less threatening. BUDDY: Yes, less
threatening than even saying, “gay” or “homosexual.” And
people take their guard down– GEORGE: Yeah. BUDDY: –as a
result. GEORGE: Let me finish up this broadcast today with this
word from the Lord that Brother Copeland gave. This is 1998.
“Those who vote for politicians knowing their immoral policies
and platforms and illegal acts had better repent. They are
partners with those politicians and will be responsible for
every baby’s death.” He said, “You’ve taken the devil’s part
by not voting at all.” This is very, very serious. Father, we
come before You. We’re making decisions all over this nation
right now to vote– BUDDY: Yes. GEORGE: –and to plant our
seed, the right seed, in Jesus’ name, amen. KEITH: Amen.
BUDDY: Amen, amen. GEORGE: I’ll be right
back in just a moment. ANNOUNCER: We hope you enjoyed
today’s teaching from Kenneth Copeland Ministries. And
remember Jesus is Lord.

4 thoughts on “Vote According to the Bible on Life, Education and Marriage

  • And yet thousands of Christians still vote for the anti-Christian, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, anti-freedom democrats. Its unbelievable how deceived so many of these Christians are and how they can't recognize sin when its presented on a platter. Alot of it comes down to sitting under false shepards behind the podiums.
    If you don't study the Bible, then you can't recognize when your pastor is heretical.
    So you get so many vulnerable believers who get swayed by their ungodly pastors.

  • when JESUS told Peter to cast his nets in the water after they fished all night and caught nothing Peter only cast one net
    into the water so many fish were caught that I think that boat began to sink so God wants his people to prosper more than
    we want to prosper

  • All Christians should pray then vote. We should also pray that the President will nominate the right person for the SC. Then pray the nominee into the SC.

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