Law Student Sent To Ex-Gay Therapy, Puts Counselor to Shame.

Law Student Sent To Ex-Gay Therapy, Puts Counselor to Shame.


My name is Scott Blair. I’m from Ocean Grove, New Jersey. When you apply to law school these days, you
can actually mark on your application if you are openly gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender. And, you know, I put that down, because I
figured why not? I was. And I did pretty well on the LSAT and this
information goes out to a bunch of law schools. And so Harvard’s gay law students group
called my mother’s house because that was my address, and said, “We want to talk to
Scott Blair.” And she said, “Why?” “Well, he’s gay. We know he’s applying to law school. We really want him to go to Harvard.” And so we’re in the car at one point, and
she goes, “Scott, I got this call from Harvard Law’s gay student group saying you were
gay. I’m like, “That’s weird. Why?” “Well they want you to go there.” I’m like, “Oh. Did you save the contact information?” “No.” “Oh. How come?” “Well, I was hoping you were lying to them
in order to get into a better law school.” I’m like, “Well, I probably would do that
if I was straight, but actually I am gay.” And she replies, “I almost want to drive
this car into a tree.” And I reply, “Can you let me get out of
the car first?” It was very weird because I still maintain
that that is the best way for any mother to find out that their child is gay. And even though my father is an atheist and
my mother is a nominal Catholic, they joined an Orthodox Jewish ex-gay group, as well as
Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays, which is an ex-gay movement, surprisingly active in New
Jersey. And I look at them and I say, “That is the
opposite of the group that you are supposed to be joining right now. They literally stole the name of the group,
Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays. That is the group you should be joining.” And they asked me to meet with somebody in
this group – one of its leaders – to sort of understand what the homosexual lifestyle
was about and what being gay was about. And I thought they were crazy. I still think they’re crazy for thinking
that. But to humor them, I said I would go if they
tried to be a little more open-minded. So I met this guy at my father’s office
in the summer of my second year of law school. And he comes in, sits down and he asks me,
“So why are you gay?” I’m like, “Well, I’m attracted to men.” And he’s like, “Why are you attracted
to men?” And I’m like, “Well, probably pretty complicated. Maybe some hereditary thing. Maybe upbringing. You know, sexuality is very complicated.” And he sort of goes into this weird diatribe
about how no one has ever found a gay gene. And I’m looking at him. He tells me, “You know, every study that
purported to find a gay gene has been authored by gays. No one else has ever found one. And I said, “I have no idea what studies
you’re talking about, but sexuality is very complex. Everything that humans do is very complex. All a gene does is control the expression
of a protein. I would be extremely shocked if one gene can
control anything like that.” And he looked at me and is very confused because
I don’t think that anyone had ever answered him in that manner before. And so he continues sort of talking and he
asks me about my childhood. And says, “Well I know you’re parents
are divorced. How did that affect you?” And I said, “Lots of people are divorced. It wasn’t great but I’m doing fine now.” And he asked me if I hate my father for that,
for the fact that my parents are divorced. And I said, “No, not really. I was raised by my father after the divorce.” And then he asked me, “Okay. How do you feel about your mother?” Like, why do you ask? “Well a lot of times people who, people
who are angry at their mother end up being turned off of women.” And I looked at him and I said, “Okay. If I was angry at my mother, that would make
me gay, because I would be turned off of women. But you asked me how I felt about my father. My guess is what you’re going to say is
if I was angry at my father, that would make me want to seek the company of other men.” And the guy looks at me and says, “That
is often borne out by my experience.” And I sort of blinked at him for a moment
and said, “Isn’t that sort of contradictory? Which one of my parents I hate, which I don’t
if they ever watch this, that made me gay. And he said, “Well it’s very complicated
but often it’s something the parents have done.” We tried to talk about how sexual immorality
can lead to the fall of civilizations. And he brought up the Roman Empire. And I got very angry about this because half
the books in my bookshelf are about the Roman Empire. And the point I made to him was the Roman
Empire only fell after it became Christian. And he said, “Well they weren’t really
Christian in any sense of the word that we would use today.” And I pointed out to him that St. Augustine
was one of the most famous Christian theologists ever. And according to what this guy was telling
me, he wasn’t actually a Christian. And I wanted to know what made him say that
that was the case. And then he said, “Well, you know, they
were very, very Catholic.” And then I said, “You realize my mother
is Catholic, right?” And he sort of then changed the conversation
a little bit. One thing that he tried to do was say that
gays are trying to restrict the rights of religious people by trying to make it illegal
to fire gays and lesbians. And I told him this is basically the same
thing as saying African Americans are trying to restrict the rights of KKK members during
civil rights movements. I didn’t see any difference and I still
don’t see a difference. And I was sort of like, “If we’re at this
point in the conversation, I don’t know what we’re really talking about. All you’re doing as far as I can tell is
getting everything wrong. If you want a reading list, I’m happy to
give you one.” And he was like, “Well, thank you for your
time.” Then he walked out to go talk to my father
for a little bit. And it’s actually hard not to feel sorry
for him. Because he was gay before he changed. He claims that he realized homosexuality was
immoral in the 80s when he saw a lot of his friends dying from AIDS. And it’s hard to mock somebody for that
because I do think that affected him. I don’t think it affected him in a healthy
manner. I think there are a lot of people who had
a better, more productive outcome. It’s easy to see how that would affect somebody. My parents continued to be in this group for
a little while longer after this happened. When he left, he told my father that I’m
very much like him, which did make my father laugh a little bit. Because it’s certainly true – we both have
a very strong argumentative and stubborn streak. The relationship with my father now is interesting
because we are very similar in a lot of ways. But we don’t talk about my sexual life at
all, or my relationships at all. It’s a shame. The last time we talked about it, I said,
“I’m not changing who I am.” He can deal with it or become a smaller part
of my life. So we’re seeing how that plays out. I would tell any kid that has to go see an
ex-gay therapist or somebody who’s telling them that it’s wrong to be gay that they
are smarter than somebody who thinks that and they are better than somebody who thinks
that. And frankly any argument that somebody uses
to support changing who you are and being straight is very, very bad. Very dumb. Thirty seconds of thought will show you why
it’s wrong.

100 thoughts on “Law Student Sent To Ex-Gay Therapy, Puts Counselor to Shame.

  • Lets say it happen don't know how but happen. The whole world population is wiped out, nobody left besides 20 gay men and 20 Lesbian women, both opposite sex don't want NOTHING to do with each other at all Mentally, Physically, Sexually ! How is human life suppose to carry on ?

  • This is a complex issue…some day we may understand why people are straight or gay or bi etc…..in the meantime, we just need to try very hard at being decent.

  • No gay Gene!!! It is an attraction thing that defines sexuality. Most Gay people were sexually abused, or come from broken homes. No one is born gay. Some people have problems during their formulation years fitting in or attracting the opposite sex. There will be a mass influx of Homosexuals since Millennial's meet all these qualifiers. But ultimately sexuality is defined by what you feel most comfortable with. For outcasts this usually is the same sex since they do not know how to communicate with the opposite sex. As for women usually they become gay after abusive relationships. There are studies on this. It is not hereditary, it is attraction and safety.

  • Being gay is not a lifestyle choice as every persons sexuality is decided in their mothers womb , prior to their birth —-its exactly the same logic that some people are born right handed and some people are born left handed

  • I have many gay smart friends, so an ivy league school isn't that impressive, but the mom taking the her son who got accepted by an ivy league school to gay conversion therapy session seems unimaginable to me that someone would do something that dispicable

  • All homosexuality is, in most cases, is a traumatic experience of molestation that occured at a young age that triggers a strong denial mechanism. Denial is an involuntary response that the brain uses to keep ones psyche from becoming too damaged from a traumatic experience. The younger the age, the more traumatic the experience. In the case of a traumatic homosexual molestation, the victim will take on the persona of the opposite sex in order to lessen the shock. The violation perpetuated on them becomes more acceptable when they see themselves as a woman. Why would a guy man, act like a woman, to attract other gay men, who are attracted to men? Makes no sense does it? Not unless you understand what I'm saying. If your so supportive of homosexuality; please watch two men performing anal sex with each other and see how it sets with you? See if it feels like something you'd want for your child as a "lifestyle". I have the utmost sympathy for homosexuals. So much so that I'm willing to take the heat for being a "homophobe" and be labeled a bad person. I'm not actually. I actually care and I'm saddled with being. very intelligent, intuative and I have a need to be honest. I don't care what people think of me. I know the truth and I say the truth and that makes me hated and unpopular. Oh well.

  • “…parents divorced, how did that affect you”
    well obviously it turned me gay! like everyone else whose parents are divorced

  • Christianity is not knowing the bible or being the famous theologian it is knowing, believing in Jesus Christ and believing and living the word of God!

  • How The Gay Agenda is Spread, Charlene Cothran. You Tube. Ex lesbian blows the whistle on the tactics of the gay agenda. Since many, many Ex Homosexuals exist there was never any reason for the Godless government to give marital rights to queers and lesbians, or even civil unions for that matter. Its an attempt at a Marxist anti Christian takeover of the West.

  • Mr. Blair is an admirably articulate, eloquent young man who'll be a fine lawyer that would make any father proud. While I look up to him, I need to remember how deeply and emotionally homosexuality's causes wound people who have that property. I say that because my research convinces me that though gay activists mean well, their activism indirectly harms they people they want to help. It does that by, say, preventing people from getting therapy for their unwanted same-sex attractions. Some SSA people commit suicide because other people convince them that there's no way to even diminish the attractions they feel.

    I know this because I study homosexuality and the treatment that many deceptively call "conversion therapy." Conversion therapists usually focus on trying to change the client's sexual orientation when they need to focus instead on feelings , shame and childhood emotional trauma.

    How people live is up to them. So I don't tell anyone how to do that. But I hope some will be open-minded enough to read some things that I've read, including these quotations:

    Let me quote from Dr. van den Ardweg's book to show you what saddens me. He quotes a gay man who says:

    Lee’s conclusions: … homogenital sex … in my experience is not about love, but about obsession, addiction, and compensation for a compromised masculinity. … I am not proud of the life I have lived. I am profoundly ashamed of it. But if reading this prevents one naïve, gullible man from making the same mistakes… … Tear down the respectable façade and expose the pornography [sexual addiction] beneath. Start pressuring homosexuals to tell the truth about their lives.

    The illusion of the steady, faithful gay relationship is a trap. It is the first step to promiscuity.

    This explains findings such as the rapid rise in the number of partners outside steady partnerships; one study says on average 2.5 in the first year, 11 in the sixth year of the partnership;64 it explains that partnered homosexuals are more at risk of contracting a HIV infection than not-partnered,65 and that the number of contacts of partnered men was more than twice that of not-partnered;66 that the suicide risk of homosexual men in official gay ‘marriages’ was eight times that for normally married men;67 and that, while the lifespan of practising homosexual men and women is considerably shorter than that of the rest of the population (as much as 10-15 years), partnered or ‘married’ gays and lesbians in Denmark are likely to die even younger.68

    van den Aardweg, Gerard. Science says NO!: The Gay 'Marriage' Deception . Lumen Fidei Press. Kindle Edition.

    If anything has been amply documented, it is the enormous promiscuity of men who have adopted the gay lifestyle. A steady relationship does not weaken, rather invigorates compulsive partner seeking. For instance, sociology professor Dannecker reported 25 years ago that in the year preceding his published inquiry, the average number of outside contacts for homosexual men with a steady partner was 115, and for those without a steady partner, 45.35 Data like this and the finding in a more recent, large and representative Dutch study that gay men in steady relationships run a higher risk of HIV infection,36 debunk the myth of the faithful gay union, the alleged counterpart of the average faithful and stable marriage.

    van den Aardweg, Gerard. Science says NO!: The Gay 'Marriage' Deception . Lumen Fidei Press. Kindle Edition.

    Here's something Dr. Joseph Nicolosi says about gay sex:

    Psychoanalytic theory defines repetition compulsion as the continual re-creating of a past, traumatic incident. Through a symbolic reenactment of the traumatic situation the person unconsciously seeks to gain final victory and to resolve his core injury. And so he recreates “in the here-and-now, the original traumatic failure situation, in the hope that perhaps this time, the outcome will be better” (Stark, 1994a, p. 23). Repetition compulsion contains three elements: 1. Attempt at self-mastery 2. A form of self-punishment 3. Avoidance of the underlying conflict

    Nicolosi, Joseph. Shame and Attachment Loss: The Practical Work of Reparative Therapy . Kindle Edition.

  • I love listening to this guy. So well spoken, poised and confident….wow! Such an intelligent emotionally intune and kind person. Like he wasn't rude he was curious and kind and wasn't rude to the therapist. Wow…good on you! You will make a great great lawyer and advocate for those who cannot advocate and deserve better. Wishing you all the best!

  • Scott, Thank you from the whole community , it saddens me that LBGTQ has to labeled anything including Community. You are a true inspiration. Thanks also Driftwood 🙂 Douglas, Florence, Oregon, USA

  • Homophobic arguments are all flawed and full of holes. Anti-homophobic arguments are always logical. Change my mind.

  • Ocean Grove, NJ has always pretty much been a quaint little seaside town—- an extremely conservative Methodist community where traditionally you couldn't even drive a car on Sundays or buy alcohol anywhere at any time. Times have changed but fundamental Christians haven't. It is sad how many people have been persecuted, alienated, judged, condemned and driven away from God by Christians not allowing people to be who they are and to love whom they choose. They cherry pick verses of the Bible they can use to castigate those they hate while they conveniently play down the verses that address their own behaviors which are inconsistent with Scriptures. The hypocrisy is mind-boggling and their assumption of how the gospel of Christ should be promoted is completely diametrically opposed to any way that Jesus Himself would have preached.

  • I find it hilarious that someone was trying to argue that divorce causes homosexuality, since I have several gay cousins and many gay friends, none of whom came from families with parents who divorced.

  • Guy would of lost the whole camp if this guy came he would have been a nightmare for them . Great for him his father should be proud
    Of such an intelligent well read and level headed for such a young age he also felt empathy for the person who was about to try and break him down and change him. What a grounded great man.

  • Oops , you displayed an obvious “tell” scooter
    You said your relationship with Dada was “fine”
    and 3 mins later you said he had to “accept me
    for what I am or have a lot less of me in your life’s”
    Dr Freud & I sense turbulent little psychic gremlins
    Running wild in that perspicacious baby noggin of yours
    ALSO why do they ask sexual orientation at HLS ?
    Isn’t “EQUAL justice under the law a hallmark
    Of FIAT JUSTITIA RUAT CAELUM

  • I definitely want Scott Blair as my Attorney, you go straight to the point to lower there thought in conversion.
    I'm sorry to say, that the church are the biggest violators. Great Job Scott!

  • This guy reminds me a lot of my Aunt Sam. This is exactly the way the conversation would go if she were talking to someone like this ex-gay therapist. It made me laugh because if my Aunt was younger and a guy this would be her

  • Son, I would simply say one thing to you and that is that the plumbing don’t fit! It is therefore unnatural and an abomination.

  • This is a very well-spoken guy. The way he talked about his experience with his parents and therapist was very good. At no point did he raise his voice or show anger about the experience he went through. It's very easy to get angry at the situation he was in and had to go through but he didn't. I applaud him for that.

  • Bravo, from an 80 year old gay Christian minister, for a brilliant and charming presentation and personal testimony. You are absolutely right. In most cases, anti-gay therapy just doesn't work, and comes close to "cruel and unusual punishment", to say nothing of loading many LGBT people with a load of emotional (and perhaps religious) guilt that often leads to a whole host of emotional trauma and suicide somewhere down the road. Thanks for your honesty and integrity. You should make a fine lawyer or legal scholar!

  • I'm sorry your folks failed to support you, but endlessly appreciative of the bathos comedy that ensued as a result, from snarky comeback regarding your mother's tree crashing desire, to "the People's" logic skullcrusher from the top rope on a cultist indoctrination recruitment stooge. "Flawless Victory."

    HOWEVER… you stated that human sexuality is a complicated thing. If so, why identify as gay, in effect affirming an absurd reduction of a spectrum phenomenon (human sexuality) into 2 or 3 classifications (straight/bi/gay)?

    No trying to attack, just looking for qualification/explanation.

    For instance, I identify as having "heterosexual preference to sex assignment with andro-light femme gender traits." Which is a.k.a. "vanilla as fuck" or "surprisingly accepting of LGBTQ community as a CIS straight male."

    I didn't know PFLAG was still in use, I haven't heard it since the 90's, when I was called a PFLAGer; having by 13 years old, concluded sexuality was like hair styles: whatever you like, your call, what I like, my call, and hating someone for their hairstyle, insanely stupid, therefore hating someone for their sexuality, equally insane and stupid.

    Good luck to you, and many thanks to the producers of this clip, it's pretty fucking awesome.

  • Damn you can just tell he’s hella smart by the way he talks & pauses to THINK before SPEAKING instead of just spewing out the story, shows he has a pretty good memory too lol.

  • Anyone who says, I used to be gay, but I'm not anymore, is really only saying, I'm not a practicing gay because I bought into the theory that it's a sin. They are in fact still gay, you can't just flip such an enormous part of who you authentically are. For people who run these gay therapy groups, if they actually believe they can turn a gay person straight, then the opposite has to be true, and they should be able to turn a straight person gay. I think we all know how ridiculous that is.

  • Sorry kid! Personally I think their frontal lobes are damaged! Hate destroys the front lobe. Making you incompetent. Like to know how’s he’s doing today!👵🏻

  • Wow mom should have been proud he got into Harvard omg the stupitdy of some people thinking if you didn't like a parant your gay ??? WTF good for you you should be the person you want to be regardless what anybody says nowadays people disliking gay people is very few and far in-between things have gotten better but you shouldn't try to change someone who is gay let them live their life at the end of the day he is still your child

  • Dude is bisexual he's just too stupid to realize it cuz if you can sleep with a man and sleep with a woman you're bisexual I've met many of them I know for cousins who are gay and because of their parents they withdraw from the gay community and get involved in church to the point they can't handle it no more and then go back to being gay for a while they all do this while hiding it from their parents it's a total shame so during this process a couple of them ended up on hard drugs one died of an overdose the family found out that he was living the gay lifestyle when well over 70 people came to his funeral that were gay

  • THE WORST PART IS the fact that every homophoc talks about how its a sin but everyone aint a catholic so it aint a sin for them bitch that easy so stop talking about a book made by humans no doubt…

  • Very respectful and intelligent young man. Why does it matter that your gay, straight, black, white, Indian etc… Going to Harvard, the question should be, what are your grades, let's see your transcripts, it's a tough school do you think you can cut it? Superficial people just want you to be like them, they can't handle anything that occurs outside their little world.

  • 5:37 "it's hard not to feel sorry for him"
    i thought he was going to say something about how it's hard not feel sorry for the counselor for losing the argument so bad
    didn't think he would go deep

  • I love this guy. When a straight man asks a gay man why he is gay, ask the straight man why he isn’t gay. He might say what he likes about women but he can’t tell you why he likes those things. No one knows why they are how they are.

  • Imagine saying you want to run your car into a tree with your child in it because that child is gay and thinking you’re a good parent

  • I hop he’s doing good now, it’s awful that his parents don’t accept him for who he is. They’re lucky to have such an intelligent son

  • In a free society we start by granting all the rights and freedoms to everyone and then start limiting those rights and freedoms based upon sound reasons. Someone's religious beliefs are not sound reasons.

  • “Oh poor me! I e gays are so discriminated against!!” Proceeds to get invited to Harvard because he’s gay. :T this is why people hate the lgbt. Because they do this shit

  • It's not a moral argument at all, it's just about mental health and being honest/learning about yourself. …I guess it was nice of him to talk about the context because it's so true that people obsess over these arguments a lot in rural places or conservative/privileged places where people politicize LGBTQ+ identity a lot. But it's dehumanizing!

  • Why do so many people equate being gay with pedophilia ? Wrong! Perhaps you're watching the wrong christian television. Every other week I hear them Falsely accuse gays of also "having sex with dead bodies and animals". Pat Robertson, the sunlight broadcasting, pastor lamb, and the list goes on and on. You lie! I am gay and I do no such thing. Never have NEVER will !!!!!!.

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